Documentation remorqueur rétro/Dokumentation Retro-Schlepper

[georges]

hello ralph

I can take all the pictures you want

I will see the documentation that the owner has

the wing of the MS is the same that the german, just the wood of the structure is remplaced by aluminium

[Ralph Stepper]

Hello Georges,

thank you very much for your kind offer, this sounds great!!

Could you please tell me which M.S. 505 you are able to photograph?

I will put together some pics or links to express the views that are important for me.
Is it better for you to have one shooting with more pictures or a fiew shootings with less pics each?

Do you mean that only the ribs of the M.S. wings were made of alu and the covering was also made of textil? Or is the covering an alu sheeting as well?

Greets from Germany
Ralph

[Ralph Stepper]

Hello Georges and others,

for me it would be great if you could make pictures from the wings that would show the surface structure. From the inner rib to rib no. 8 there is an alu covering on the storch's wing's top, because underneath there are fuel tanks. On the alu surface you can see rivets on the rib lines, on the rest of the textile covered wing, the ailerons and flaps there are stiches, covered by zick-zack cutted tape strips. On http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aircraft-Restoration-Company/Morane-Sau.....7f44f6b12f17ad0 it seems the same way on this M.S. 505 (G-BPHZ), but the view is too far away. So please could you make a few pics from the top and the buttom of the wings, showing this surface details more closely?

I am also planning to install LED lights, but only if there are a few on the original M.S. 505. On the Storches there were red and green position lights in the wing tips, a white light on the lower back rim of the rudder and on the most versions an aditional landing light under the left wing.
On the most M.S. 505 pictures you can see M.S. 505 without wing tip position lights, for example on http://www.airliners.net/photo/Morane-Saulnier-MS-505-Criquet/1235183/.....7f44f6b12f17ad0 . On the above link of the G-BPHZ there also seems to be no light in the back rim of the rudder and I have not seen any M.S. 505 with landing lights. Does someone know if there were some M.S. 505 flying in France with any kind of light?
If not it's o.k., I will love to do without lighting, this would save weight and money...

Thank you for your help in advance!

Regards
Ralph

P.S. für Stephan: ich hoffe nicht, dass ich Dir Deinen Thread zu sehr M.S.-lastig mache und für meine Zwecke misbrauche. Falls doch, gib mir bitte Bescheid.

[Stephan]

[Ralph Stepper]

Hello at all!

Have some of you any idea regarding my problem with the lights on the M.S. 505 in France?
I should plan to put some in the wings right now, if there were some on the originals...

Thanks a lot in advance!

Regards
Ralph

[espenlaub]

PZL-104 Wilga Vorbild Dokumentation

....im aktuellen Verbandsmagazin des DMFV, bzw. auf der
dortigen Webseite.
Bitte bei Interesse auf der Webseite des Artikels ganz nach
unten scrollen um an die weiteren Zeichnungen zu gelangen.

http://magazin.dmfv.aero/theorie-praxis/der-polnische-pirol/

Der Download der Zeichnungen ist natürlich kostenfrei.





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Gruß
Hans-Jürgen

[Stephan]

Hallo Hans-Jürgen
Danke für die Info
Gruß
Stephan

[espenlaub]

Hallo Stephan,

da ist jetzt die farbige Dreiseitenansicht aus dem Heft nicht im Download dabei, nur die farblose mit den Schnittdarstellungen.

Wenn aber einer der ausländischen User das haben möchte soll er mich anschreiben, ist dann kein Problem.....

Gruß
Hans-Jürgen

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...hier die ersten beiden Prototypen und die Wilga 2000

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Gruß
Hans-Jürgen

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Klemm L 20




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Hans-Jürgen

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mit einer Pilatus PC-6 kann man sicherlich auch schleppen, hier finden sie den Downloadlink für meine PC-6 Zeichnungen

https://www.dmfv.aero/magazin/




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Hans-Jürgen

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diverse Pilatus PC-6 Versionen




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Hans-Jürgen

[Ddm]

Hello, I am new of this forum. Sorry for my english language.

I know that unfortunately Mr. H.J. Fisher is no longer with us.

But I found his 3-view drawing of the Avo-68 Samburo posted on this thread (post dated 24/12/2008).

Does anybody have the full resolution drawing by chance? Or maybe, as alternative, anybody knows where it can be found?

I would be very interested in that.

Thank you very much in advance for any help.

Davide
Italy