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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 25/09/2010 21:54 Sujet du message: New Project SZD 9 Bocian |
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Hi All,
after the construction of Musger from Vincent's project I have decide to start with a new model, after various hypothesis I start with the design of SZD 9 Bocian. After about two months I have concluded my project. I have choice 4.7 scale that gives a model of about 3,85m. Here enclosed my design. Next week I start the cutting of various pieces.
Roberto
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VincentB Serial Posteur
Inscrit le: 23 Jan 2006
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Posté le: 26/09/2010 05:17 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Roberto, nice project it's very well that after a building from plan or kit, you are drawing your own plans
Retroplane et modélisme en pause, vanlife à haute dose. |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Anonyme Serial Posteur
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Posté le: 26/09/2010 10:23 Sujet du message: |
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Nice project we shall follow with much interest |
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Renato Stagiaire Posteur
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Posté le: 04/10/2010 18:14 Sujet du message: Re: New Project SZD 9 Bocian |
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Hi Roberto.
I am very interested in your project, because I´m start to build the Bocian from a plan bought to Traplet pubblications. It is a 3 mts wingspan. I would like to known which wing profile you will use and how you will install the wing to the fuse.
Regards, Renato |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 04/10/2010 19:58 Sujet du message: Re: New Project SZD 9 Bocian |
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« Renato » a écrit: Hi Roberto.
I am very interested in your project, because I´m start to build the Bocian from a plan bought to Traplet pubblications. It is a 3 mts wingspan. I would like to known which wing profile you will use and how you will install the wing to the fuse.
Regards, Renato
Hi Renato,
the wing profile is the MS Retro 13% with an incidence of 2°. To connect the wings to fusolage I have decided to use a round bar of fiberglass. The same method used by Vincent on the Bergfalke.
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 17/10/2010 20:15 Sujet du message: |
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Hi All,
my construction is now started here enclosed some photos of my Bocian
Roberto
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de Schaetzen Harold Maniaco Posteur
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Posté le: 18/10/2010 08:59 Sujet du message: |
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Congratulations Roberto,
I think you may already stop. What you have built is a piece of art.
I will also follow very close your construction.
Bocian is an interesting project. Not many have been build. It is a different shape compared to the standard sailplanes.
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DELRIEUPierre Psycho Posteur
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Posté le: 19/10/2010 10:57 Sujet du message: |
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Hello Roberto
Summer 2010 at Airfield of Czestochowa:
Bocian details for you:
Pierre
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DELRIEUPierre Psycho Posteur
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Posté le: 19/10/2010 11:00 Sujet du message: |
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Other :
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DELRIEUPierre Psycho Posteur
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Posté le: 19/10/2010 11:06 Sujet du message: |
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And more
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DELRIEUPierre Psycho Posteur
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Posté le: 19/10/2010 11:08 Sujet du message: |
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The last
Pierre |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 23/10/2010 18:51 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Pierre many thanks for the photos are all interesting. Hi Harold thanks for the congratulation. Today I have concluded the rudders, here enclosed some photos. Now I start with thw elevator because to arrange the elevatore control system inside the fusolage is better to have the elevator.
I think to use the same method of control used by Vincent on MG 9A.
Roberto
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 01/11/2010 18:30 Sujet du message: |
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Hi All,
my construction of Bocian is proceeding, the elevator is concluded. Now I have to decide the method of elevator control. I have some doubt, I don't know if choose the method used by Vincent on MG 9 or simply use two bowden with external connection to movable part of horizontal tail.
Your suggestions are very appreciated, many thanks in advance
Roberto
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VincentB Serial Posteur
Inscrit le: 23 Jan 2006
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Posté le: 01/11/2010 19:01 Sujet du message: |
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Always very clean and perfect did you choice the color scheme?
Retroplane et modélisme en pause, vanlife à haute dose. |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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VincentB Serial Posteur
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 01/11/2010 21:07 Sujet du message: |
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Thanks Vincent,
already download, are the photos that give me the idea to project and built the Bocian, for me the colour and the painting scheme is beautiful.
roberto |
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Renato Stagiaire Posteur
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Posté le: 02/11/2010 03:15 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Roberto
!!! Beautiful piece of art !!!
Renato |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 02/11/2010 21:18 Sujet du message: Simulation with XLRF5 |
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Hi All,
today I have used the software XLRF5 to try to check the flight characteristics of Bocian with the profile MS retro 13%.
The wing incidence that I have chosen is of 2°.
In the two followings images it is possible to understand the with the CG placed at 67mm the model will fly at a speed of 12.5m/s that is 45 km/h. With the wing incidence of 2° the moment coefficient is zero.
In the enclosed diagram the max. glide ratio is about 28 at speed of 12.5m/s
Roberto |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 07/11/2010 19:19 Sujet du message: |
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Hi All some other photos of my Bocian
Roberto
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Walter Incurable Posteur
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Posté le: 08/11/2010 07:42 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Roberto,
...looks really great!
I´m looking forward to see your Bocian airborne...
Walter |
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Paul ELLIS Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 09/11/2010 18:14 Sujet du message: |
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Beautiful workmanship Roberto
Paul
Un anglais en France |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 21/11/2010 22:10 Sujet du message: |
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Hi All
today I have concluded the covering of fusolage, here enclosed two photos of work.
Roberto
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Fauteuilaroulix Maniaco Posteur
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Posté le: 22/11/2010 10:21 Sujet du message: |
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il n'y a pas à dire c'était un c'est beau planeur!
attention en Anglais: is the verry beautiful glidder!
Fauteuilaroulix in the Jabron river Valley!
Jean le rempailleur de fauteuil roulant |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 28/11/2010 16:15 Sujet du message: |
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Hi All,
today I have conclude the structure of fin where the horizontal tail is fixed. The fin is made by a a shaped balsa block I have some doubt if is better to make some hole in order to reduce the weight on rear part of fuselage.
Roberto
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Renato Stagiaire Posteur
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Posté le: 29/11/2010 00:00 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Roberto. Beautifull work!!!
Is not a bad idea to reduce some weight in the tail. You could open some holes in the fin and the structure below the elevator, and refill the holes with foam, in order to mantaing the shape of the structure at the moment of cover it.
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 29/11/2010 20:17 Sujet du message: |
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Thanks Renato,
good idea to use foam to fill the holes.
Roberto |
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 12/12/2010 19:34 Sujet du message: Giorgio's Bocian |
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Hi All,
also my dear friend Giorgio is working on my project of Bocian,
some photos of his work
Roberto
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RobertoP Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 08/01/2011 22:00 Sujet du message: |
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Hi All,
The construction of my Bocian is proceeding with the wings here enclose some photos of the right wing, now I need to start with the left wing.
Roberto
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