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ultralajt Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 12/11/2010 11:16 Sujet du message: CIRUS HS 62 |
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These days I start to do a research about vintage Yugoslav bi-place school sailplane CIRUS HS 62, as I feel it would be a very good candidate for an large scale RC model, due its proportions and unique appearance.
The main problem at most of old Yugoslav sailplanes is lack of technical documentation. There are some pretty weel done drawings in Martin Simmons books, but there are not all interesting sailplanes included.
For a CIRUS HS 62 (and later model 64), only some 3 view drawings are widely available for public. As I see, these drawings are not well acurate drawn that could serve as a firm base for making the scale rc model plans&drawings.
So, my research lead me trough a very comherensive site of Aeroclub Sarajevo, where an excelent description of complete design story of CIRUS HS 62 and 63, are made by its designer, Mr. Neno Hrisafovic.
I was able to contact Mr. Hrisafovic regarding Cirus saiplane and he kindly give me his hand in order to help me with research of this cute sailplane details. In lack of workshop technical documentation, he send me some hand made drawings of internal structures, and give me some explanations. At this moment only minor details are waiting to be made and or corrected, but there are pretty enough informations now, for making of plans and drawings of a scale RC glider.
I am aiming towards 1:4 scale, which gives a wingspan of 4,25m.
Well, enough talking, let see the drawings I made:
If you want to see larger resolution of this drawing, and some other photos of this sailplane, visit my web Blog here (scroll down to Cirus):
http://ultralajt.webs.com/apps/blog/show/5309098-triglav-and-cirus-hs-62-vintage-yugoslav-sailplanes
So much for now.
When plans will be ready, probably the assembly of a model will starts....
Till then...
Regards!
Mitja
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Anonyme Serial Posteur
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Posté le: 12/11/2010 13:56 Sujet du message: |
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A nice and interesting subject I do like the Triglav too... |
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ultralajt Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 12/11/2010 14:25 Sujet du message: |
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Some of the photos of a Cirus as found on AK Sarajevo website.
CIRUS HS 62 prototype during a test flight.
Very eye apealing canopy.
Front cockpit.
Designer looking at a test version of the wing rib design. Note small scale model of Cirus, on the table!
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ultralajt Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 12/11/2010 14:27 Sujet du message: |
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And another view on my drawings:
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caralp_laurent Psycho Posteur
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Posté le: 23/11/2010 16:47 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Mitja,
beautiful glider, great shape
Lolo
Lolométéo, rétro addict ;o)
"On commence à vieillir quand on remplace ses rêves par des regrets"
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ultralajt Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 23/11/2010 17:31 Sujet du message: |
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« caralp_laurent » a écrit: Hi Mitja,
beautiful glider, great shape
Lolo Yes, the shape of the fuselage is very odd and not similar to any school biplace sailplane of same era and made with same construvtion method (welded steel tubes). I think it will be a "crowd pleaser" at our aerotow meetings, next year if I manage to build it.
Now, I am already completing my "research" and CIRUS HS 62 drawings. As you can see from the drawing below, the prototype sailplane went trough some modifications, that lead later to HS 64, that was made all from wood. If I ever build this sailplane as an RC model, it will be the very first version of prototype.
Mitja
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ultralajt Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 28/11/2010 17:30 Sujet du message: |
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Some progress:
Mitja
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Posté le: 28/11/2010 17:34 Sujet du message: |
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Hi Mitja, you want to build the fuselage in welded steel tubes?
Retroplane et modélisme en pause, vanlife à haute dose. |
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Posté le: 02/09/2012 12:55 Sujet du message: |
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Unfortunately I choose fast way to get model flying, so I did not show building thread here.
Fuselage is made using "lost foam" composite, and wing is sandwiched.
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Sorry guys...
You can see model flying at my youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5pG3Cuie0M&list=PL4ED493AF45863E87&feature=plcp
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Mitja
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Posté le: 02/09/2012 18:41 Sujet du message: |
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hello Mitja, congratulations for this awesome model.
(Thanks a lot for your kind comments on RC/groups)
Marc |
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ultralajt Fidèle Posteur
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Posté le: 03/09/2012 11:47 Sujet du message: |
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Thanks Mark. Nice build threads deserve kind comments!
Bytheway, I want to share here a little trick I use in making scale rudder pedal for the Cirus HS-62!
I was having troubles finding some useful material to represent rubber padding on the rudder pedal (see photo below).
Suddenly I came acros idea, that save me from headache!
I take Super Sculpey* (polimer clay for making dolls and sculptures) squeeze it into a thin sheet (pancake) and then use threaded rod ( M8 ) and roll it over the Sculpey surface. Threaded rod left nice grooves into the Sculpey.
Then I put Sculpey into a kitchen owen for 30min at 130°C. Sculpy then became hard. It can be cut with scisors and sand with sandpaper. It behave then like an ordinary plastic. I glue a part of that material onto the pedal and paint with silver paint.
I am sure, that any complicated part of the cockpit interior, like various buttons, knobs, handles and paddings, can be done using this material.
See my finished rudder pedal:
* Super Sculpey
It is modeling clay, also useful for making pilot heads, hands, shoes....
Link: http://www.sculpey.com/products/clays/super-sculpey
Regards!
Mitja
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Posté le: 03/09/2012 13:06 Sujet du message: |
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Very realistic, good idea ! |
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Posté le: 03/09/2012 19:21 Sujet du message: |
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Nice detail I like too super sculpey, it's a good idea to use this product for that
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Posté le: 06/09/2012 12:10 Sujet du message: |
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One more..
I made these "buttons" (shallow sperical bolt heads) on the pedal surface such way, that I simple make drops of white carpenter glue (water resistant) on the surface using toothpick. When glue dries it became almost firm as an plastic, but it shrink a little, so that shrinkage must be taken in concern (or not if you are tolerant as me).
Mitja
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